Discord

Zoom

Discord

Discord makes money primarily through Nitro — a $9.99/month subscription that gives users bigger file uploads, HD video streaming, custom emoji, animated avatars, and profile customization. There's also Nitro Basic at $2.99/month with fewer perks.

Server owners can pay for Server Boosts that unlock premium features for their community. Discord also added a cut of server subscriptions — creators can charge monthly membership fees and Discord takes 10%.

The key insight is that Discord's core product is completely free. Voice chat, text chat, screen sharing, communities with thousands of members — all free.

Nitro is cosmetic and convenience upgrades. Most users never pay and Discord is fine with that.

The free users create the network effects that make the platform valuable.

Zoom

Zoom uses a freemium model. Free accounts get unlimited one-on-one meetings and 40-minute group meetings.

Paid plans start at $13.33/month per user for Pro (meetings up to 30 hours), $18.33/month for Business, and custom pricing for Enterprise. Zoom also charges for add-ons — Zoom Phone (cloud phone system), Zoom Rooms (conference room hardware), and Zoom Contact Center.

The free tier is the hook. The 40-minute limit on group calls creates just enough friction to push power users to pay.

And once one person in a company pays, the whole team follows because nobody wants to be the one whose meetings keep getting cut off.

Discord

Jason Citron had already built and sold a gaming company — OpenFeint, a social gaming platform for mobile, which GREE bought for $104 million in 2011. After that, he started Hammer & Chisel, a game studio that was supposed to make mobile games.

The game they built, called Fates Forever, was a mobile MOBA that got great reviews but almost nobody played.

What Citron noticed was that gamers were using terrible tools to communicate. TeamSpeak was clunky.

Skype was laggy. Nothing worked well for groups of people who needed to talk while gaming.

The internal voice and text chat tool that Hammer & Chisel had built for their own team worked better than anything on the market.

Citron and co-founder Stan Vishnevskiy pivoted the entire company. They stripped out the gaming stuff and launched Discord in May 2015 as a free voice, video, and text chat platform for gamers.

It spread through Reddit first — a post on the r/gaming subreddit went viral and crashed their servers on day one. Within a year they had 25 million registered users.

Zoom

Eric Yuan grew up in Tai'an, a mining city in Shandong province, China. In 1997, he was 27 and inspired by the internet boom happening in America.

He applied for a US visa. He was rejected.

He applied again. Rejected again.

Eight times total over two years before he finally got approved in 1997. He moved to Silicon Valley with barely any English and joined WebEx as one of its first engineers.

Yuan spent 14 years at WebEx, eventually becoming VP of Engineering. Cisco acquired WebEx in 2007 for $3.2 billion.

Yuan watched Cisco slowly bloat the product with enterprise features while the core video quality deteriorated. He kept telling Cisco leadership they needed to rebuild the product from scratch.

They kept saying no.

In 2011, Yuan quit and took 40 WebEx engineers with him. He founded Zoom Video Communications with a simple thesis: video meetings should just work.

No downloads. No lag.

No "can you hear me?" No IT department required. He built the product that Cisco refused to build.

Discord

Discord grew through communities, not ads. The first users were gamers on Reddit and Twitch who were sick of TeamSpeak and Skype.

Streamers would set up Discord servers for their fans, and every viewer who joined brought their friends. The growth was entirely organic for years.

The bot ecosystem was the secret weapon. Discord made it trivially easy to build bots — automated programs that add functionality to servers.

Music bots, moderation bots, gaming bots, utility bots. Developers built tens of thousands of bots, each one making Discord servers more useful and sticky.

A server with good bots became a mini-app platform.

COVID and the "beyond gaming" shift were massive. When lockdowns hit, study groups, book clubs, art communities, crypto communities, and just friend groups all started using Discord.

By 2020, non-gaming usage overtook gaming usage. Discord quietly dropped the "for gamers" tagline and rebranded as a platform for communities of all kinds.

Zoom

Zoom grew on one thing: it worked. In a world where every video call started with five minutes of technical issues, Zoom calls just connected.

That reliability was the entire marketing strategy for the first five years.

The freemium model did the rest. Teachers, coaches, therapists, book clubs, and small teams all started on the free tier.

When they hit the 40-minute limit, enough of them converted to paid. And every free meeting was essentially a demo — everyone in the meeting saw how good Zoom was.

Yuan obsessed over simplicity. While competitors like WebEx and GoToMeeting required downloads, plugins, and IT involvement, Zoom worked in the browser with one click.

The learning curve was essentially zero. Your grandmother could figure it out.

That turned out to be extremely important when a pandemic suddenly required your grandmother to figure it out.

Then COVID happened. In March 2020, the world shut down.

Every meeting — work, school, family, doctor, church, happy hour — moved to video. Zoom was already the easiest option.

Daily participants exploded from 10 million to 300 million in four months. The stock went from $70 to $588.

Discord

Monetization has been the eternal question. Discord has 200 million monthly active users but has never turned a profit.

Nitro subscriptions are growing but most users are happy on the free tier. Unlike Facebook or Twitter, Discord doesn't run ads — they've explicitly said ads in DMs or chat would destroy the product.

Finding ways to monetize without betraying user trust is the core challenge.

The Microsoft acquisition saga. In early 2021, Microsoft reportedly offered $12 billion to buy Discord.

Citron and the board walked away. The thinking was that Discord could grow into something worth much more independently.

Whether that was the right call depends on whether Discord can eventually figure out profitability — Microsoft would have solved that problem instantly with its distribution.

Content moderation at scale is brutal. With millions of servers and hundreds of millions of users, Discord has struggled with harmful content — extremist groups, CSAM, doxxing, and harassment.

They've invested heavily in trust and safety teams and automated detection, but the decentralized nature of servers makes moderation much harder than a centralized feed like Twitter or Facebook.

Zoom

The post-pandemic hangover has been severe. Zoom's stock peaked at $588 in October 2020 and crashed to under $70 by 2022 — an 88% drop.

The company went from the most exciting tech stock on the planet to a cautionary tale about pandemic valuations. Revenue growth slowed from 300%+ to single digits as people returned to offices and competitors caught up.

Security and "Zoombombing" were early crises. In early 2020, as millions of new users flooded in, trolls discovered they could join open Zoom meetings and share offensive content.

Schools, churches, and AA meetings were disrupted. It turned out Zoom's encryption wasn't truly end-to-end as advertised.

Yuan had to halt all feature development for 90 days and focus exclusively on security fixes. It was a near-death reputational crisis.

Competition from Microsoft Teams and Google Meet intensified. Both companies bundled video calling for free into products that hundreds of millions of people already used.

Microsoft Teams integrated directly into Office 365. Google Meet was built into Gmail.

Zoom had to compete against free products from two of the richest companies on Earth.

Discord

Discord's core is servers — community spaces organized into text and voice channels. Think of a server like a clubhouse with different rooms for different topics.

Voice Channels let you drop in and out of audio conversations like a walkie-talkie. Stage Channels are for live audio events with audiences.

Forum Channels organize discussions by topic. Discord also has direct messaging, group chats, video calls, screen sharing, and a growing app/bot ecosystem.

Activities let users play games and watch videos together inside Discord calls.

Zoom

Zoom Meetings is the core — video calls that actually work. Zoom Webinars handles large-scale events with up to 50,000 attendees.

Zoom Phone is a full cloud-based phone system replacing traditional office phones. Zoom Rooms turns physical conference rooms into one-click video meeting spaces.

Zoom Contact Center competes with established call center software. Zoom Team Chat is their Slack/Teams competitor.

Zoom Whiteboard is a collaborative digital canvas. Zoom Revenue Accelerator uses AI to analyze sales calls.

And Zoom AI Companion summarizes meetings and drafts messages.

Discord

Benchmark, Accel Partners, Greylock Partners, Index Ventures, Greenoaks Capital, Dragoneer Investment Group, Spark Capital, Fidelity Investments

Zoom

Sequoia Capital, Emergence Capital, Horizons Ventures (Li Ka-shing), Qualcomm Ventures