Gusto

Magic AI

Gusto

Gusto charges a monthly base fee plus a per-employee fee. The Simple plan starts at $40/month plus $6 per employee per month.

Plus and Premium tiers add features like time tracking, PTO management, and dedicated support at higher price points.

The per-employee pricing creates natural revenue growth — as customers hire more people, Gusto makes more money without any additional sales effort. This aligns Gusto's success with their customers' growth, which is a beautiful incentive structure.

Additional revenue comes from embedded financial products. Gusto Wallet (employee banking), Gusto-run health benefits, 401(k) administration, and workers' comp insurance all generate fees.

The payroll platform becomes a distribution channel for financial services — once you process payroll for a company, you have a direct relationship with every employee and can offer them financial products.

Magic AI

Magic is building an AI that works like a software engineer, not a chatbot. The goal is a model you can hand a whole code base and a task, and it writes, reviews, and debugs like a teammate.

Their edge is memory. In 2024 they showed off LTM-2-mini, a model with a 100 million token context window.

To put that in perspective, that is about 10 million lines of code the model can look at in one shot, by far the biggest of any model at the time. The plan is to sell this as an AI coworker to companies that write a lot of software.

As of the 2024 rounds, the product was still not for sale.

Gusto

Josh Reeves, Edward Kim, and Tomer London were Stanford engineering graduates who noticed that every small business owner they talked to hated the same thing: payroll. Running payroll meant calculating federal, state, and local taxes, filing quarterly returns, issuing W-2s, managing direct deposits, and dealing with an alphabet soup of compliance requirements (FICA, FUTA, SUTA).

One mistake and the IRS sends a penalty notice.

The existing solutions were terrible for small businesses. ADP and Paychex dominated the market but were designed for mid-to-large companies.

Their interfaces looked like they were built in 1998 (because they were). Their pricing was opaque.

Their customer service required calling a 1-800 number and sitting on hold. Small businesses with 5-50 employees were dramatically underserved.

The trio founded ZenPayroll in 2011 (rebranded to Gusto in 2015) with the mission of making payroll dead simple. The first version was a clean web interface that let business owners run payroll in a few clicks — enter hours, review the numbers, hit submit.

Gusto calculated all taxes automatically, filed them with the government, and sent direct deposits. What used to take half a day took five minutes.

Magic AI

Eric Steinberger and Sebastian De Ro started Magic in 2022. Steinberger is an AI researcher who became convinced that the missing piece for a true AI software engineer was memory.

Chatbots forget what you told them a few thousand words ago. He wanted a model that could read your entire code base and remember all of it.

They raised a small seed in 2022, then a $23 million Series A in early 2023 led by Alphabet's growth fund CapitalG. From day one the pitch was not a chatbot.

It was an AI colleague that could handle real engineering work.

Gusto

Gusto grew by being the payroll platform that accountants recommended. Accountants manage payroll for thousands of small businesses, and Gusto built a dedicated Partner Program for accounting firms.

When a CPA recommends Gusto to all their small business clients, that's efficient distribution at scale.

The product-led growth motion is strong. Gusto's clean design and simple setup meant small business owners could sign up, enter their employee information, and run their first payroll without talking to a salesperson.

Free trials converted at high rates because the alternative was going back to manual calculations.

Expanding from payroll into HR, benefits, and financial services followed the natural workflow. Once Gusto ran payroll, adding benefits administration was a natural upsell — the same system that calculates pre-tax deductions can also manage the benefits that create those deductions.

Magic AI

Magic's strategy is research first, product later, which is both unusual and expensive. Instead of shipping an app and iterating in public, they raised huge sums to chase a technical breakthrough in model memory.

The headline move was the 100 million token context claim, which got the whole AI world talking. They also cut a deal with Google Cloud in 2024 to build two supercomputers, called Magic-G4 and Magic-G5, using NVIDIA chips, to train bigger models.

Star backers like Eric Schmidt served as validation. The bet is that if the tech is far enough ahead, the product and the customers follow.

Gusto

ADP and Paychex aren't going to cede the small business market quietly. ADP Run is their small business product, and they've been modernizing it aggressively.

ADP has 70+ years of trust, massive sales teams, and relationships with every accountant in America. Gusto has a better product experience, but ADP has distribution that's hard to match.

Rippling is the most dangerous competitor. Parker Conrad (Rippling's CEO) is building an "all-in-one" HR/IT/Finance platform that includes payroll alongside device management, app provisioning, and expense management.

Rippling argues that payroll should be one feature in a broader system, not a standalone product. If companies buy Rippling for IT management and get payroll included, Gusto loses the deal.

Moving upmarket is hard. Gusto's sweet spot is companies with 1-100 employees.

Larger companies have more complex needs — multiple pay schedules, union rules, multi-state compliance, custom integrations — that Gusto's platform historically hasn't handled as well as incumbents.

Magic AI

Magic has raised close to half a billion dollars and, years in, still has no product the public can buy. That is the whole problem in one sentence.

A giant context window is a great demo, but rivals like Cursor, GitHub Copilot, and Cognition's Devin already have real users and revenue. Magic has to prove that more memory actually makes a smarter engineer, not just a bigger number on a slide.

And it has to do that while burning enormous sums on compute against competitors who are already shipping. The clock and the cash both keep running.

Gusto

Gusto Payroll — automated full-service payroll processing with tax calculations, filings, and direct deposits across all 50 states. Gusto Benefits — health insurance, dental, vision, 401(k), HSA, FSA, commuter benefits, and workers' compensation administered through the platform.

Gusto HR — hiring and onboarding tools, employee self-service portal, org charts, and document management. Gusto Time & Attendance — built-in time tracking with PTO management, holiday calendars, and overtime calculations.

Gusto Wallet — a free employee financial wellness app offering early wage access, savings accounts, and financial planning tools.

Magic AI

The centerpiece is Magic's LTM, or Long-Term Memory, model family. In 2024 they unveiled LTM-2-mini, a model with a 100 million token context window, pitched as the key to an AI that can understand an entire code base at once.

The broader product is an AI software engineer, or coworker, that can write and change code across a whole project. The company also announced Magic-G4 and Magic-G5, two supercomputers built with Google Cloud and NVIDIA to train these models.

Much of it is still research rather than a shipping product.

Gusto

Google Capital (now CapitalG) led the Series C. General Catalyst invested early and has been in multiple rounds.

Dragoneer, T. Rowe Price, and Fidelity participated in later growth rounds.

Y Combinator was the starting point (Winter 2012 batch). The company was valued at $9.5 billion in its latest funding round in 2022.

Magic AI

Magic's backers are a murderers' row of AI insiders. It started with a $5 million seed round in 2022 and a $23 million Series A in early 2023 led by Alphabet's CapitalG.

Then in February 2024 came a $117 million round led by Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross, two of the most connected investors in AI. The blowout was August 2024.

Magic raised $320 million with checks from former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, CapitalG again, Atlassian, Jane Street, Sequoia, and Elad Gil. That pushed total funding to around $465 million, all for a company still building toward its first sellable product.